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Blue Velvet as child's primal scene fantasy

example · film: Blue Velvet · retold in 3 talks

Michel Chion's reading of the Dennis Hopper / Isabella Rossellini scene in Blue Velvet: the disturbing details (breathing mask etc.) are best read as a child's imaginary reconstruction of what parents are doing behind a closed door, having heard sounds without understanding sex.

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“you should read this as a visualization of a fantasy imagine a kid listening and father doing certain thing and the kid doesn't know what is sex and imagines what is as the father difficulties in breathing”
“you should read this scene as the visualization of what a small kid… imagine a small kid listening at the door parents making love”

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Michel Chion's reading of the Dennis Hopper / Isabella Rossellini scene in Blue Velvet: the disturbing details (breathing mask etc.) are best read as a child's imaginary reconstruction of what parents are doing behind a closed door, having heard sounds without understanding sex., illustrating perversion is constitutive,fantasy and the primal scene,the Real in cinema
Michel Chion's reading of the Blue Velvet scene: Dennis Hopper's oxygen mask, heavy breathing, and obscenities are the visualisation of a child imagining what parents do during sex based on audio clues. Žižek adds that Hopper is an impotent father performing brutality to cover up impotence for the watching child., illustrating childhood sexuality and fantasy,constitutive ignorance,the primal scene