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De Gaulle vs. Pétain legality

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Žižek argues that de Gaulle's call to armed resistance against Vichy France was entirely illegal and that Pétain had the democratic majority behind him, yet de Gaulle was right. This illustrates that there are situations where supporting an illegal, minority political-military action against a legal, popularly supported government is justified.

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“from a legal standpoint Maréchal Pétain was… elected by the majority… but I think de Gaulle did the right thing”
“General de Gaulle. Every history of France tells you... Pétain was legitimately nominated the ruler of France and undoubtedly communists admit this... what General de Gaulle did absolutely was not democratically legitimized”
2:11:22 Is Hegel Dead?2015-10 · 2:14:01
“the Pétain government was fully democratically legitimized... Who is de Gaulle? It's like wild military force opposing a democratically justified government.”
~1:28:37 A Reply to my Critics2013-02-28 · 2:02:55

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Žižek argues that de Gaulle's call to armed resistance against Vichy France was entirely illegal and that Pétain had the democratic majority behind him, yet de Gaulle was right. This illustrates that there are situations where supporting an illegal, minority political-military action against a legal, popularly supported government is justified., illustrating revolutionary violence,legality vs. legitimacy,the courage of hopelessness
2:11:22 Is Hegel Dead?2015-10 · 2:14:01
Žižek uses de Gaulle to show that democratic legitimacy is not always on the side of liberation: Pétain was democratically nominated, de Gaulle had zero democratic legitimacy, yet Žižek is on de Gaulle's side., illustrating democracy,revolution-violence,legitimacy
~1:28:37 A Reply to my Critics2013-02-28 · 2:02:55
De Gaulle unified France by starting from a tiny, apparently crazy minority position, opposing French forces and defying the democratically legitimized Pétain government. Žižek uses this to argue that authentic unity only emerges from an initial act of division., illustrating authentic unity comes from division,political organization,democratic legitimacy