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Debating a Nazi about the Jews

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Žižek imagines debating a Nazi-sympathetic friend; he could list true facts (Jews over-represented among Berlin critics, journalists, lawyers), but insists the true question is why the Nazis need the figure of the Jew, and that accepting the factual debate already concedes the frame.

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As told 4

“the moment you accept the debate what are really the jews in some sense you already sold your soul to the devil”
“We all found ourselves in a situation of arguing for Hitler, idiot, why didn't he do this, why didn't he do this”
40:13 Unexpurgated: Slavoj Zizek2024-06-27 · 3:13:30
“let's say I debate with a Nazi in in Germany the problem of the Jews and what he says all the data can be true.”

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Žižek imagines debating a Nazi-sympathetic friend; he could list true facts (Jews over-represented among Berlin critics, journalists, lawyers), but insists the true question is why the Nazis need the figure of the Jew, and that accepting the factual debate already concedes the frame., illustrating figure of the Jew,immanent subjective truth
40:13 Unexpurgated: Slavoj Zizek2024-06-27 · 3:13:30
Žižek describes sitting with Jewish friends in Jerusalem who, despite having relatives killed in the Holocaust, enthusiastically debate how Hitler could have won by helping Mussolini take Egypt and attacking Russia later, revealing a dark, obsessive engagement with Nazi history through 'what if' scenarios., illustrating ideology,history
A thought experiment where a Nazi cites statistically true data (e.g., percentage of Jewish literary critics or bankers) to serve a racist lie, demonstrating that data is never neutral., illustrating Marxist point,truth in the guise of a lie (reverse)
Žižek imagines a debate with a hard-line Nazi in 1937 Germany. He admits the Nazi's facts (e.g., Jews were a majority of bankers/critics) might be true, but argues the real issue is why the Nazi subject needs the Jew to maintain his identity and avoid the collapse of his 'corporate feudal capitalism.', illustrating ideology,fascism-populism