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Freud at Škocjan Cave meets Karl Lueger

anecdote · personal/autobiographical · retold in 3 talks
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Mladen Dolar told Žižek that Freud visited the terrifying Škocjan Cave (which inspired Dante's Inferno) and had a near-mystical encounter: deep inside, a dark figure approached, who turned out to be Karl Lueger, the antisemitic mayor of Vienna. Lüge means lie.

2016: 1 talk 2017: 1 talk 2023: 2 talks
≤2000talks it is told in, per year2026

As told 4

“you go deep, deep you don't encounter the ultimate, you encounter a cheap anti-Semite”
34:46 The Prospect Of The Post-Human2016-11-02 · 1:42:49
“he met the fundamental lie there”
36:10 Slavoj Žižek: Wokeness, Psychoanalysis, and Quantum Mechanics | Robinson's Podcast #109pub. 2023-07-02 · 1:36:25
“If you look really deep into a person, you don't find some deeper deep truth. You find Lueger, lüge, lie.”
1:53:29 Populism as a way to disavow social antagonism2017-05-24 · 2:24:54

What it carries

one story, many jobs: the ideas this anecdote is deployed to argue, one tally mark per use (an idea page shows the same relation from the other end, as its shelf of stories)

contents · one story, 3 jobsuses
the unconscious ×1 fetishist disavowal ×1 fundamental fantasy ×1

Its cast and sources

populated by
Karl Lueger2Dante Alighieri2Józef Maria Bocheński1Garret FitzGerald1Averroes1Edoardo Weiss1Charles Sanders Peirce1Alain Aspect1
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Every retelling 4

34:46 The Prospect Of The Post-Human2016-11-02 · 1:42:49
Mladen Dolar told Žižek that Freud visited the terrifying Škocjan Cave (which inspired Dante's Inferno) and had a near-mystical encounter: deep inside, a dark figure approached, who turned out to be Karl Lueger, the antisemitic mayor of Vienna. Lüge means lie., illustrating depth psychology as illusion,the unconscious yields not truth but a cheap lie,Jung's depth psychology refuted
36:10 Slavoj Žižek: Wokeness, Psychoanalysis, and Quantum Mechanics | Robinson's Podcast #109pub. 2023-07-02 · 1:36:25
Freud visited the terrifying Škocjan Caves in Slovenia and, in the deepest depth, encountered the anti-Semitic politician Karl Lueger, whose name 'Lüge' means 'lie' in German, symbolizing that the unconscious contains fundamental lies, not deep truths., illustrating unconscious,fetishist disavowal
1:53:29 Populism as a way to disavow social antagonism2017-05-24 · 2:24:54
In the darkest part of the Škocjan caves in Slovenia, Freud encountered Karl Lueger, the anti-Semitic mayor of Vienna. Žižek reads this as the staged lesson of psychoanalysis: looking deep into a person you don't find a deeper truth but a fundamental fantasy, a contingent lie masking antagonism., illustrating fundamental fantasy,ideology,psychoanalysis,truth beyond exactitude
26:48 Slavoj Žižek: Wokeness, Psychoanalysis, and Quantum Mechanics | Robinson's Podcast #109pub. 2023-07-02 · 1:36:25
Freud's colleague Weiss had two impotent patients: an Italian with superego guilt and a totally corrupt Slovene with no ethical restraints. Freud said the Slovene was so corrupted that psychoanalysis couldn't yet cope with him, illustrating how permissiveness produces impotence., illustrating permissiveness turning into its opposite,divided subject