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Postmodern permissive father and grandmother visit

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The old-fashioned authoritarian father says 'you must visit grandmother'; the tolerant post-modern father says 'only go if you really want to', which secretly contains the stronger command 'you must go AND you must want to go'.

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“You know how much your grandmother loves you, but nonetheless, you should only visit her if you really want to. Now, every child who is not an idiot…know that this apparent free choice secretly contains an even more stronger, much stronger, order.”
“you know how much your grandmother loves you, but nonetheless, you should only visit her if you really want to”
2:52 Screening Thought2011-05-04 · 1:33:47
“The order is not only you must visit her, but you must like to visit her. You see this is how authority functions.”

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The old-fashioned authoritarian father says 'you must visit grandmother'; the tolerant post-modern father says 'only go if you really want to', which secretly contains the stronger command 'you must go AND you must want to go'., illustrating tolerant post-modern father,superego as injunction to enjoy,ideology
2:52 Screening Thought2011-05-04 · 1:33:47
The authoritarian father says 'you have to visit grandma', resistible but honest. The tolerant father says 'only go if you really want to', which every non-idiot child reads as a stronger covert command to obey AND enjoy., illustrating postmodern tolerant father,surplus enjoyment,ideology
Old authoritarian father: 'I don't care how you feel, go to grandmother, it's your duty.' Postmodern permissive father: 'I want you to visit her only if you really want to.' The second is a stronger command: you must not only go but desire to go., illustrating postmodern permissive authority,the stronger injunction beneath free choice
~20:08 Modern How-To Guide2015-05-05 · 1:23:04
A traditional patriarchal father simply orders the son to visit grandmother; the postmodern permissive father says 'you are free to go or not' but elaborates on how much grandmother loves him, effectively commanding not just the act but the desire, which is a deeper terror., illustrating permissive super-ego,inherent transgression,ideology of freedom
6:40 At Nuit Blache2012-09-29 · 2:06:58
The traditional authoritarian father orders you to visit grandmother; the postmodern permissive father says 'visit her only if you want to', a harsher injunction because it demands not just the action but the correct desire., illustrating postmodern permissive father,permitted-but-prohibited ambiguity,ideology
The old authoritarian father says 'I don't care how you feel, go visit your grandmother.' The postmodern permissive father says 'only go if you really want to, remember how much she loves you.' The child gets a harsher order: not merely to go but to want to go, colonizing inner freedom entirely., illustrating postmodern permissive master,ideology,surplus-enjoyment