Vertigo, the fantasmatic shot of Madeleine
example · film: Vertigo (Hitchcock) ·
retold in 4 talks
In the restaurant scene, almost all critics describe Scottie's view of Madeleine as a subjective point-of-view shot; but it is too intense to be that, it is an 'objective subjective formation,' a fantasmatic image he cannot consciously assume or integrate.
≤2000talks it is told in, per year2026
As told 3
“It is a subjective shot. It's not she in reality, it's clearly a fantasmatic shot. But it's too intense, too strong. He cannot...”
“he in a way retroactively discovered that what he thought that he has lost never existed.”
“retroactively Madeleine never existed”
What it carries
one story, many jobs: the ideas this anecdote is deployed to argue, one tally mark per use (an idea page shows the same relation from the other end, as its shelf of stories)
contents · one story, 3 jobsuses
retroactive necessity
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fantasy as objective appearance
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objective illusion
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Its cast and sources
populated by
John Boorman1Richard Branson1Fernando Pessoa1Joe Slovo1Jerry Brown1Reiner Schürmann1Joseph Campbell1Emmanuel Faye1
alongside works
Every retelling 3
In the restaurant scene, almost all critics describe Scottie's view of Madeleine as a subjective point-of-view shot; but it is too intense to be that, it is an 'objective subjective formation,' a fantasmatic image he cannot consciously assume or integrate., illustrating fantasy as objective-subjective formation,objective appearance,transcendental dimension
In Hitchcock's Vertigo, Scottie thinks he loses Madeleine; he discovers she never existed, so he didn't merely lose the object, he retroactively discovered what he thought he'd lost had never been there, enabling a counterfactual change of the past., illustrating counterfactual past,retroactive necessity,objet petit a
At the end of Vertigo Scottie discovers not only that he lost Madeleine but that Madeleine never existed, the vulgar Judy and Madeleine were the same person. This illustrates retroactive causality: the past itself changes when the truth is revealed., illustrating retroactive causality / retroactive necessity,freedom of choice vs. freedom to choose one's fate