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Žižek debates Bernard-Henri Lévy at NYPL

anecdote · personal/autobiographical · retold in 3 talks

At the New York Public Library Žižek debated BHL on liberal tolerance vs. communism; their formulations were so abstract that BHL declared himself a communist, proving ideology works through abstraction.

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“When I described communism in such a way that Bernard-Henri Lévy agrees with it, then something is wrong.”
13:54 Utopias2009-06-15 · 1:21:36
“even he said, okay, with a little bit of irony but nonetheless, "Oh, if this is communism then I am a communist," no.”
“Bernard-Henri Lévy, the great neoliberal, he told me, oh my God, if this is communism, I am a communist. This was a sign that something was wrong.”

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13:54 Utopias2009-06-15 · 1:21:36
At the New York Public Library Žižek debated BHL on liberal tolerance vs. communism; their formulations were so abstract that BHL declared himself a communist, proving ideology works through abstraction., illustrating background noise,ideology,liberal communist
Žižek and Bernard-Henri Lévy each made their respective cases, Lévy for liberal tolerance, Žižek for communism, in such abstract terms that both positions became indistinguishable; Lévy even said 'if this is communism, I am a communist,' proving both were deep in ideology., illustrating ideology,thick background noise,liberal tolerance
At a public debate, both BHL and Žižek stated their positions (liberal tolerance vs. communism) in abstract terms and found they could not disagree; BHL said 'if this is communism, I am a communist.' Žižek reads this as a sign that both were deep in ideology, the background noise ensured real disagreement beneath surface agreement., illustrating background noise of ideology,ideology appearing as non-ideology