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Austrian-German telegram (catastrophic but not serious)

anecdote · WWI/historical apocrypha · retold in 3 talks

During WWI, Berlin telegraphed Vienna that the situation was 'serious but not catastrophic'; Vienna replied it was 'catastrophic but not serious', Žižek uses this as a formula for modern ideological denial of ecological and other crises.

2011: 3 talks
≤2000talks it is told in, per year2026

As told 3

“with us the situation is serious but not catastrophic... with us it's catastrophic but not serious”
“Germans to Austrians: 'Here the situation is serious but not catastrophic.' Austrians to Germans: 'With us the situation is catastrophic but not serious.'”
“here on our part of the front, the situation is serious but not catastrophic... here with us, the situation is catastrophic but not serious.”
12:25 Great Minds2011-07-01 · 1:30:44

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During WWI, Berlin telegraphed Vienna that the situation was 'serious but not catastrophic'; Vienna replied it was 'catastrophic but not serious', Žižek uses this as a formula for modern ideological denial of ecological and other crises., illustrating fetishist split,symbolic efficiency,ecological ideology
In WWI, Germans telegraphed Austrians: 'situation serious but not catastrophic'; Austrians replied: 'with us, catastrophic but not serious.' Žižek uses this to capture our ideological predicament, we know things are catastrophic but cannot take it seriously., illustrating ideology,material force of ideology,the situation is catastrophic but not serious
12:25 Great Minds2011-07-01 · 1:30:44
In WWI, German HQ telegraphs Vienna: 'Serious but not catastrophic.' Austria replies: 'Catastrophic but not serious.' This perfectly renders the fetishist split: knowing the catastrophe but not taking it seriously., illustrating fetishist split,ecology and ideological disavowal